Karlan Talkington March 14 at 8:39pm Report
I don't care if he's a citizen or not, either way, he doesn't support the Constitution, or the American people. He was raised with socialist/communist philosophies and surrounds himself with like minded persons. He offered us "change" and because of the last decade of crap we ushered it in not asking what kind of change he was thinking of.
Let me ask you something? Are you liking the change you are seeing in America? I'm not talking about Obama but the change that he is finally ushering in. Bush, Clinton, Obama, they have all screwed us. We let red vs blue get in the way of the truth of it.
Supreme Court applies the perspective of the President that appointed them. They do not respect the Constitution either.
Do you?
Jason Lau March 14 at 8:50pm
Specifically what "change" are you talking about? Your question is about as retarded as it comes. Be a little more focused on your ?s.
I will say that I voted for roughly 80% of what he is trying to accomplish. Were it not for Bush's economic failures, we would be in much better shape. You voted Bush right?
while you're at it - define socialism and communism.
Karlan Talkington March 15 at 3:40am Report
The "change" I'm talking about is the push, the nudge, of the Socialism in America. The Federal government control of corporations, the dependence of the American people on the Federal government for jobs and all means of everyday life. Pushing us into a "Nanny State" where the Federal govt. makes decisions for us because they know better than us on how to live our lives and what's good for us.
If you think for one moment that this is ALL Bush's fault, then you are truly naive. Bush was just another cog in the machine to push us towards this new "regime" He allowed the financial crisis to occur allowing the government justify its bailing out (or purchasing) of banks. Obama voted for the bail out as well and continued to kill us financially with the Stimulus bill and the "Jobs" bill (Stimulus 2). BTW, I didn't vote for Bush as he doesn't support the Constitution not that who I voted for is any of your business.
Your "messiah" is killing America right along with every other Progressive all the way back to Woodrow Wilson.
Define Socialism? France, Britain, the EU, to name a few
Communism? Stalin, Cold War Russia, need I go on?
Is that what you are looking for in America, to become more like the EU? Take a hard look at Canada's or even Britain's health care system and tell me with a straight face that its working for them.
Jason Lau March 15 at 6:15am
You've proven to be an absolute joke, socialism is the government ownership of all industry.
Again - all industry. France, Britain the EU? No. Guess again, or try harder. You are totally clueless as to what socialism even is - and you throw out that word as a catch-all for all those that disagree with you.
Beyond that you say Obama is a corporatist (he bails out banks) yet he's also a socialist - giving favor to the poor at the expense of the rich through state ownership. SO WHAT IS IT??? You can't have it both ways, son.
NHS (the British healthcare system) vs the private based-profit driven system here. Lets review some facts:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/aug/11/nhs-sick-healthcare-reform
US - most expensive worst outcomes
You really want to engage with someone who knows what they are talking about? You picked the wrong educated liberal to rile.
BTW - explain Brown's vote for the jobs bill - and your continued support for him. Does that make YOU a socialist?
Is public healthcare in the UK as sick as rightwing America claims? | Society | The Guardian
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Karlan Talkington March 15 at 8:07am Report
You use the Guardian as your source for facts?
And I am the joke?
You may as well use the NY Times, MSNBC, or any other liberally or nationally-back door-owned media source because they'll all tell you the same thing and that is whatever agenda the government is pushing or satisfied the liberal agenda.
You may be "educated" but if your education is derived by these types of sources then all hope is lost for you. You have already been brainwashed and blinded to the damage Obama and other progressives have done and will do to this country.
By the way, your definition of socialism is the EXTREME form of Socialism. The Nationalisation of ANY industry is a step toward Socialism. So Obama starts with the Banks, GM, GE, which by the way, owns NBC so now he has financial, automotive, and media at his direct disposal. This is not a start down the road to socialism?
Or is it you simply don't care? Perhaps you're a socialist yourself?
Again, this wouldn't surprise me.
The use extremes to attempt to disprove what is going on. Very typical of the progressive liberalism that is kill this country.
I guess it doesn't bother you that nearly 90% of Obama's staff is from or related to his days in Chicago? That he employs self described communists as his "Green Jobs Czar". That he is heavily supported financially by SEIU? That he denies being involved with ACORN but is on tape stating the opposite? That he has close ties to the terrorist group Weather Underground. Again he denies it but is caught on tape with the direct opposite. His "right hand man" Valerie Jarrett states she and the president know them and trust them. Them being Jeff Jones and Bill Ayers. The same Jeff Jones of the Apollo Alliance that helped draft the Stimulus Bill.
Need I go on? I predict your response will be more of the same deflection so don't bother responding. Obviously this debate is going nowhere.
Good Day
Jason Lau March 15 at 8:13am
Wait GE is government owned? Are you that dumb? Seriously- do you believe this????!?!?! How do I debate with someone so incredibly stupid?
And your following paragraphs prove a other few things. Quite simply, you watch Glenn Beck and are not educated. I'm mean you are really really really dumb. It's mind numbing that an adult can even get through life living off platitudes and misinformation.
As for health stats - go to the WHO's (world health organization's) website. USA - ranks 37th - in CARE. Right around Costa Rica and Cuba.
Also - look up who first coined the term Czar...it was Reagan.
Consider yourself owned.
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